TRANSCRIPT OF RADIO INTERVIEW

KPFA WEEKEND NEWS ANCHOR DAVID ROSENBERG: November 8th was the 20th anniversary of UN Resolution 955, which created the International Criminal Tribunal on Rwanda and the UN has announced a new ICTR legacy website, including a video tribute to its own accomplishments.

During its 20 years in operation, the court indicted 93 Rwandan Hutus, convicted 61, and spent 2 billion dollars. In 2003, former Chief Prosecutor Carla Del Ponte announced that she intended to indict Rwanda’s Tutsi President, Paul Kagame, for the assassination of his predecessor, Rwandan President Juvenal Habyarimana, and Burundian President Cyprien Ntaryamira, but instead, she was summarily fired. No one was ever indicted for the assassinations, which, by the ICTR’s own admission, shattered a fragile peace, and started the ensuing panic and slaughter of 1994. KPFA’s Ann Garrison spoke to Phil Taylor, a former private investigator for ICTR defense attorneys, who became a prominent critic of the court as host of the Taylor Report on CIUT-89.5 fm in Toronto.

KPFA/ANN: Phil Taylor, have you seen the ICTR’s 20-year anniversary video tribute to itself?

PHIL TAYLOR: Yes, one time.

KPFA: OK, I’m going to play the opening of the video.

PHIL TAYLOR: All right.

ICTR VIDEO TRIBUTE: From its first makeshift courtroom, the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda went to work on a formidable task. Its mission: to locate, apprehend, and prosecute the architects of the genocide. Over the last 20 years, the Tribunal delivered judgments that defined, for the first time, how the world confronts acts of genocide in a court of law.

KPFA: Phil, what do you think?

PHIL TAYLOR: I think it's shocking, embarrassing that they did this. Y'know there's a proverb that says 'Self praise is no recommendation.' What I saw was a self-promoting video. It's totally inaccurate, and they end up, strangely, by seeming to endorse the current government of Rwanda. And I don't understand how that has anything to do with the mandate of a tribunal, which was to look into the crimes committed in Rwanda in 1994. So it shows me that they really were engaged in a political exercise to basically justify the regime that exists there today, which is a military dictatorship established by Paul Kagame masquerading as a political structure. I think it's contemptible, when you see such absurd, grand talk about the Tribunal, and you hear this actor's voice - and I'm convinced that is an actor, somebody paid a lot of money for that four minute, self promoting video.

KPFA: Oh yeah, they acknowledge that it's an American television actor.

PHIL TAYLOR: Yeah. And costly. So, to bring it down to saying that now in Rwanda, you can listen to the radio now and be safe, that is such a caricature, because it is widely known that If you were a broadcaster in Rwanda today, and you were supporting Victoire Ingabire, you would be arrested, and you would not be safe. Here is the United Nations, International Criminal Tribunal on Rwanda, putting out propaganda to sustain a one-man dictatorship. That is a disgrace. And that people calling themselves lawyers and judges associate themselves with such a video, really just tells you that it was bankrupt from the day it started.

So, indeed it was, exactly what they said it would not be. It was victor's justice. And the video that they presented is the kind of thing you get from an authoritarian regime. They do not expect to be contradicted. They don't expect anybody to be allowed to say anything, except themselves.

So it's like a regime - the ICTR. And it's a self-congratulating regime. I don't understand why they have a public relations department to slap them on the back. That seems to be a waste of money and not the purpose of a tribunal.

KPFA: And that was Phil Taylor, former private investigator for ICTR defense cases and host of The Taylor Report on CIUT 89.5fm, Toronto. For Pacifica, KPFA and AfrobeatRadio, I'm Ann Garrison.

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