"I still remember with a heavy heart at the Labour camp in Nuremberg where as a very qualified worker, I was paid 15 cigarettes a week. Can you imagine that? It was indeed a very tense moment for me," said William. The other survivor on the panel, Théodore Michael, who came all the way from Germany for the event, said he was born in Berlin where his parents settled following their migration from their homeland, Tanganyika. He said he naturalised as German at the end of the Second World War. Théodore was reacting to a question from the audience as to why he considers himself a German when his true origin is Tanganyika.